Usage of the media and technology

I think we can best help Christ and any prophets to come by using technology via the existing media or maybe we need to create a new system to replace what exists. Of course that assumes that todays infrastructure still exists in the future and that no major catastrophe comes along to cause problems.

He could make a good impression by miraculously taking over all the networks I wonder if the government would arrest Jezus I think he would have to do it the hard way, imagine the stereotype Jezus arriving at a big building, asking for the director, walking into his office and requesting airtime: "Hey, I'm Jezus, you mind if I speak to the world?" He needs some serious convincing to get it done, but I think the media are his only chance these days. Standing on a box in the middle of a square is not the best way of doing things today.... I wish him luck

I agree with everthing you wrote but Jesus would not 'take over' anything without someone's agreement. Mind you he could be persusaive if he desired. This is what I believe.

Yes, the modern media and modern technology would be tools in the hands of the messiah or any prophets.

How would Jezus be more persuasive than any well-prepared psycho? If he uses some 'divine power' wouldn't that be kind of unfair and against his principles? Of course he would not 'take over', but by that he would perhaps cut off one of his few ways to the world...

Hmmm... I think psychos learn to say what people want to hear and they are focused on the moment entirely. I think that Christ will say deep things or even mysterious things that upon reflection will have a degree of truth to them. He of course will be fixated on the future as much as the present I believe.

How much power would he use? I'm guessing as little as possible to do the job since the physical realm is that which he hopes to transcend in the first place. I think that is the reason that few real miracles were performed such that the people did not learn to fall in love with the physical and the idea that it could be manipulated to suite their whims by some kind of Magic (or is it Magick or Majik?).

Don't underastimate the intelligence of psycho's. There has been a professor in theology who had become so obsessed with his work he thought he was the messiah. Having worked his ass off on new theories he would probably be able to come up with some deep stuff to impress people. I think he went to a clinic but he did so quietly and without resisting, with an attitude of "The world is sad.. they put away their messiah..." As they say: The line between genius and insanity is easily crossed.

Agreed. But a prophet must come bearing gifts of wisdom rather than intellect which is limited in power to solve problems.

Must disagree. Wisdom is usually very true and a very good theory, but intellect can actually get something done. Armies conquer, philosophers don't. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it the way it is, but the world simply doesn't work that way. Intellect is understanding the way things work and using it. Wisdom is saying that things work the wrong way and inventing an impossible solution. If Christ comes up with something do-able I would like to hear it

I think that wisdom is understanding.

While intellect is capacity to think, to ponder or to question. That is why they are quite different.

An intellectual is a good thinker but not necessarily a wise person. While a wise person may not be the best person to engage in intellectual activity.

Wisdom often come froms intellect but it also comes from accepted truths, from feeling and intuition too. It is in short the connection to the whole intellect of the universe and knowing it and having a degree of understanding of it.

Only the creator is truly wise due to perspective over all.

You could call the creator a super computer that truly understands what it is rather than being ingnorant like our computers are.

I am digressing a bit here and suggesting some ideas that I cannot prove unfortunately.

If we would be so simple as to understand ourselves, we would have such simple minds that we could not understand ourselves, does that separate us from the 'creator'? interesting point... but is he the 'creator' then? Sounds like a smarty-pants who knows all, but what has creation got to do with it

Wisdom is not understanding, it's up one level above understanding. Understanding is knowing how something works, intelligence is knowing what it does, and wisdom is knowing both, including everything else (why it does so, who made it do so etc etc blabla) and not losing the big picture

(dude this conversation is straying ) we seem to attack each-others sub-arguments rather than each-others opinions

Creation is the act of adding intelligence or life force' to formless matter to create something that is living or has higher form. Sort of engineering with a good computer program that allows ability to increase intelligence.

I still contend that wisdom is largely understanding. It is more than that of course, we both agree.

Understanding requires knowledge of all related issues and ideas and concepts too which is far broader than the apparent subject at hand. That is why wisdom is difficult to obtain, because it requires an overall perspective which is often counter to that which we value, which is expertise, or intense knowledge about specific things.

You lost me when you equated a prophet with a psycho. I don't see the connection in the absolute sense. I do see some similarities of course between the two and particularily as that seen by the casual observer which I expect would see little difference between the two.

Indeed, an expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
But do you really have to know everything? A supposed wise man we all know once said 'Scio me nihil scire' (I know I know nothing) I don't think you have to know everything to be wise...

Psycho's can be so obsessed that they believe themselves, and Christ would believe himself, wouldn't he? They could bring forth the same message, behave the same, the only difference supposedly being that Christ can perform miracles and actually IS telling the truth. The difference between insanity and genius, is measured only by success. Suppose the guy all Christians believe to be the son of God just had a major mental disorder? There is no possible way to prove either

I agree that you do not have to know everything. In fact it is good to rely on our 'instinct' or what some call our soul connection, rather than to just rely on the rational mind for enlightenment like many academics believe we must.

Psychosis is very common actually and everybody probably suffers from it to some extent. For example, did you ever watch those people that always have a cell-phone glued to their ear?

Do agree that there is often a slim line between genius and madness. In fact madness is just unrecognized genius in some cases. Look at Nicola Tesla for example (one of the smartest of all time in my humble opinion), and the tragic life he lived. Only now are people able to understand what we was talking about (even if they still don't know the 'how').

The mormons have a specific edict that forbids television and radio.

The muslim world uses Al Jazera.

As these mediums go, the are both benefit and detractor. Like all other inventions, ther intended use can and will be co-opted and perverted and distorted for a plethera of agendas.

Ernest Angsley was a master. After him came Jim Baker. There is Vatican T.V.. The First amendment guantees freedom of speach. Media is only a medium for that. Still, the rest of the world has it too. Its an even playing field now. Who shall ever use these mediums effectively must master them. What are the masses attractied to? What will bring them to the tube and watch? What is exciting and fullfilling? Unfortunately, what attracts most people are the endugeancies of sin. T.V. has noe moral fortitude. And apparently, niether do the people who use it most effectively.

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