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| Brian |
Posted: August 30, 2004 05:07 pm
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Jesus doesn't require any technology to speak to everyone simultaneously.
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| Adminroc |
Posted: August 30, 2004 10:11 pm
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I believe that. But Jesus wants to speak to everyone, not just those that want to hear him but those that close their minds and hearts to him also. That is why I believe he will need the help of technology to spread his word.
===++++++++++++=== Mark 8:35
"For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's shall save it" Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" |
| Brian |
Posted: August 31, 2004 12:56 am
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A bigger question comes to mind, before solving the idea of communication assistance.
Who would recognize Jesus for who he is? |
| ShadowWalker |
Posted: September 02, 2004 07:53 am
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Wisdom is different that intellect. The beginning of all wisdom is the fear of God. Thinking and believing is different from knowning. Man's wisdom is different from God's wisdom.
Out of man's wisdom I would state no matter how screwed up this world is, nor matter how screwed up your own personal life may be, without money in this world your really screwed. Intellectual people created nuclear weapons but was that wise? Perhaps genius lays in knowing what not to invent. In explaining the Book of Revelation to a friend in different terms I said if people upon planet earth had lived year in and year out like the tribes of North America lived upon planet earth then this world may not have gotten to this world's end, or at least it would have gotten there a whole lot slower. The scriptures speak about man's increase in knowledge but it doesn't exactly term man's increase in knowledge as a good thing. God knows all things from beginning to end and time follows a straight progession from beginning to end. In between those two points neither God of Jesus change. God still hates Idolatry. The Kingdom of Heaven is still not of the world of man, nor of worldly things. A man cannot still serve two masters. A man still cannot serve both God and mammon because he will love one and despise the other. After Jesus pulled his disciples out of corrupt religion they lived primarily as communalists but still with in man's corrupt religious system, his corrupt governmental system, and in his corrupt system of money-mammon. At the same time the native tribes of what is now North America lived as tribal communalists without a money-mammon system. When the Europeans arrived the tribes of North America were still pretty much living the way they did when Jesus was walking around in Israel. One cannot say about divergent futures but if the Europeans were arriving today the native tribes might still be living like they were when the Europeans arrived. At time progressed time ushered in the historical Catholic Church which was a Church/State, or man back to religion, another priesthood that didn't differ much from Leaders of the Temple, the Rabbi's, the Pharisee's, and so forth. Organized religion that was in bed with the state. The Catholics began progressively wiping out anyone oppossed to them even other Christian sects. When the years passed and the Protestant Church came into being they did much the same thing as the Catholics had already been doing. Other splits from those religions did the same and even more splinter groups splintered out of them. They all put forth their own dogma's and dictates where as the scriptures state not to be of the dogma and dictates of man. In this world whether it is religious, political, or business, you will find the dogma, and dictates of man. Rev 18 speaks about the Merchants of the earth who were great men who deceived all the nations of the earth with their sorceries. Rev speaks about the buyers and sellers of things and not in much any good light at all. Everyday everything is bought and sold. Stocks, money, products, political philosophies, religious philosphies, ect. People try to sell one another that they know something, but do they? People play the game of trying to make "Points" with one another. The Prophets of Israel, Jesus, nor John were not playing the game of making "Points" with anyone. To most people the Book of Revelation is a book from the past but to me it is a book from the future. To most people Jesus is a guy who walked around in the past, but to me Jesus is from the future. He just merely stepped into the what is now the past, but at that time it was the now of things, and it was the time God ordained he step into this thing called time. Jesus taught practical wisdom. Jesus taught to live this day without worry for tomorrow for tomorrow will come with all it's own cares. Jesus taught in order to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven one must humble themselves and make themselves like a small child. Children love to play. Jesus said not to build up your treasures upon the earth but to build up your treasures in Heaven, so why knock out yourself out to materialistic slavery in this world? Materialistic slavery is fed by the Merchants of the earth. The buyers and sellers of things. They are very crafty devils at knowing how to sell their products. What is politics other than marketing and selling candidates? Are they who Jesus terms, the world of man? Jesus said he doesn't even pray for the world of man, but for his own that they might be safe. In tribal concepts of commualism Jesus came from the tribe of Judah, and hence his title Lion of Judah which is paradox to the Lamb of God. Was it the Lamb of God of Lion of Judah who turned the tables on the money changers at the temple? Paradox says the high will be made low and low will be made high. Perhaps it is best to be lowly and meek in this world? The meek shall inherit the earth. And the day may come when Jesus returns like the money changers at the temple he may turn the tables on a whole lot of people? |
| zentradi |
Posted: September 02, 2004 09:21 pm
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so who, if either, uses multi-media now? God, or Satan?
===++++++++++++=== you summoned the breeze, now reap the whirlwind
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| Adminroc |
Posted: September 19, 2004 10:23 pm
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Good question. I think the media is both good and bad. There is positive messages and negative messages. There is controlling aspects and enlightening and activating aspects. It can be what you want it to be and unfortunately we cannot ignore it. Mind you we do not need to make it the focus of our existance.
Then there is music and art and so many other ways to interact. The need for people to work together to present the greatest prophet the world has ever known in a manner acceptable to all people is a great challenge and one that must be borne by people that truly believe in the need. ===++++++++++++=== Mark 8:35
"For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's shall save it" Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" |
| Razor |
Posted: July 09, 2005 08:43 am
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Greetings all,
Of course we are all Human beings of the Flesh and not perfect, so we tend to think of Human communication mediums. Christ will put down all rule and Authority very quickly by his own means, and I have no doubts that because he has all authority in Heaven and then now on Earth, he will decide how all men shall receive the knowledge of the truth. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth". (Phil.2:10) This post has been edited by Razor on July 09, 2005 08:48 am |
| Adminroc |
Posted: July 28, 2005 07:06 pm
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I believe that Christ will allow all freedom of choice...
to hear or not and how they want to hear. He has always been clear about this and it underlies everything he said.. freedom of choice. He was also clear on the consequences of the decisions that people would make and that is where people seem to be confused on the subject of Christianity. Christ was not an enforcer nor a dictator but a teacher a guide and a prophet.. but that is how I choose to see him and anyone else is free to see it as they please. ===++++++++++++=== Mark 8:35
"For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's shall save it" Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" |
| Razor |
Posted: August 07, 2005 06:57 am
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I know that it would be easy to see Christ as an enforcer or Dictatorial, if you where one of the spiritual bad guys so to speak.
After all he will bend their Swords into Ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks and they shall learn War no more. I can just hear all the War Mongers complaining already, BORING! they will complain. Yet as the Millenium Reign proceeds over the 1000 years, the Truth will be Shouted from the roof tops. No Excuses then. Peace |
| Adminroc |
Posted: September 07, 2005 11:17 pm
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Have to agree with you there Razor, Christ should uphold the universal law of freedom of choice!
===++++++++++++=== Mark 8:35
"For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's shall save it" Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" |
| Adminroc |
Posted: October 18, 2006 02:31 am
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I have to say that with all this wireless technology now that the antichrist would love to use it to proclaim their return to earth via a mass human fake consciousness.
===++++++++++++=== Mark 8:35
"For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's shall save it" Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" |
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